Methodology and thoughts behind those PR Week Twitter stats
There’s a school of thought that says that what’s important in social media is to attempt to create debate, not consensus.
Peter Hay from PR Week and I appear to have been rather successful in this. This morning, PR Week published an article, Twitter has suddenly exploded. Almost immediately, Twitter (or at least our particular neighbourhood of Twitter) suddenly exploded.
One or two people were rather scathing: suggesting that the stats demonstrated that Peter and I didn’t understand the “essence of Twitter” or that they were “obviously flawed”, or that we had “redefined shallow”.
Indeed (horror of horrors) some people even went so far to suggest that Porter Novelli had ginned up the results to put us at the top. In fact, in PR week’s list, we came second. But no doubt this was a Machiavellian ploy — it’s details like those, Pooh Bah would say, that “give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative.”
I joke, but I can completely understand people’s strong feelings about this; PR Week was torn between a desire to cover our approach (and give credit where appropriate) and a need to keep the article readable and relevant to the greater proportion of their readers.
I’d like to share our methodology with you all so that you can repeat our experiments, should you so wish. After that, I’ll talk about the methodology that we were originally going to follow,
Tomorrow (once it’s had a chance to blow over), I’ll post some quick thoughts on the whole storm-in-a-Tweetcup thing.
Methodology
We used Michael Litman’s (@litmanlive) list of UK Media Tweeple. This was based on original work by Stephen Davies (@stedavies) but has been wikified so that agencies can (should they so choose) keep their information up to date.
Lots of people on the list were pretty borderline — there are in-house teams and vendors there, as well as agencies with a significantly broader remit than simply “PR”. I am a relative newcomer to the world of PR, and was more than happy to let PR Week define who is PR and who isn’t, but we erred on the generous side. We are Social, for example, made the cut to be on the research list.
Had we had the time, I’d have sent a note out over Twitter asking everyone to update their entries. Time, however was not on our side, and I didn’t even get around to hinting at what I was doing until the evening of the 23rd.

By then though it was already clear that I had a large job on my hands; there were almost 350 people on the list. On the whole, the UK PR community should be proud of how quickly it has reacted to the whole “Twitter thing”.
I took the list, published it as a Google Spreadsheet and — using a Yahoo! Pipe that I adapted for the purpose, queried the Twitter API for the summary data on each account on that list.
Twitter gives you all sorts of interesting information, but what we were grabbed were the following:
- Date joined Twitter
- Number of Friends
- Number of Followers, and
- Number of Updates.
That allowed us to create this spreadsheet, from which the stats mentioned in the PR Week article were taken.
Again, Porter Novelli took no part in the editorial decisions (although they seem pretty straightforward.) You will recall that Peter and Gemma were writing for a general readership, not for the Twitterverse!
Methodology we’d like to have used
Those of you who’ve read my blog before will know that my real interest in Twitter is more complex than the previous methodology would suggest. When Peter and I first discussed the exercise on Monday we had been hoping to do something more along the lines of the network analysis that we’ve been fiddling with at Porter Novelli.
Here are some points to bear in mind.
First of all, not all followers are created equal. If I have only ten followers, but they each have a thousand followers, that may mean I have more opportunity-to-influence than if I had a hundred followers with only ten followers each.
More to the point, the fewer people those ten people follow themselves, the more influence I wield within their networks (if I am one of only ten people they follow between them, I will have greater share-of-voice than if I am merely one of ten thousand.)
Secondly, the followers whom I don’t share with the rest of the network count for more than those who follow several (or many) of my peers. The more “exclusive” my follower-base, the greater my control over on the flow of information within the overall network, and the greater my value to the network.
I’ve been doing some work looking at unduplicated reach among twitter networks. For example, looking at Porter Novelli’s own global Twitter footprint, it was interesting to see how many of our contacts were duplicated.
So what Peter and I really wanted to do was to use some of these techniques on the PR Week data set. For those of you with a mathematical (or social network analytical) bent, we were going to run some eigenvector shizzle on the whole bizzle. Oh — and look at unduplicated reach for the various companies on the list.
What went wrong?
It was always an ambitious project. The 344 people who were under analysis had a fairly daunting 95K followers between them. The Twitter API lets you make 100 requests an hour, and each request returns data on up to 100 followers. Even if we were to assume that everyone had followers in nice tidy multiples of 100 (they don’t) then it would have taken 9.5 hours to download the data using one Twitter login.
The trick of course, is to use more than one login. Tim Hoang (@timhoang) and I quickly registered 50 temporary accounts to power the API requests. Twitter’s terms have historically been quite relaxed about this sort of thing, and we’ve always been very careful to try and stay within the spirit of those terms.
But.
Twitter has been hit lately by a bunch of bad things (like spam bots and pyramid schemes), and they’re tightening up their defenses. This past weekend, they’ve tightened up a lot, and things that used to be fine just aren’t.
We managed to collect information on only around 60K followers out of the 95K. This was too large a margin of error to correct (although we made several attempts to do so).
So — we had to abandon our grand plans, and revert to the simple counts approach (as detailed above.) This won’t stop us trying to improve our processes, but we’ll need to talk to Twitter about that.
Some thoughts
Kate Hartley from Carrot Communications (who sits with me on the PRCA’s Digital Working Group) joked that it’s strange how PR people create research-for-news-stories for their own clients on a daily basis, but are miffed when their own techniques are used against them. At one level, I agree with her — I think that some people are probably disappointed that they aren’t the ones with their names on the research.
But there’s more to worry about than that. Here are my thoughts.
- For God’s sake get over yourselves! We’re talking about Twitter here, not the economy. Worry about something important, why don’t you? I still can’t get over the fact that — when a pilot managed land an airplane on a river, the story we all tell each other is “how it broke on Twitter.” What — the story’s not about a man who magically landed a f*cking plane on a f*cking river? Are we really getting this right?
- How influential you are on Twitter is not a real thing. It doesn’t really matter how many Twitter friends you have (although I’ve now got heaps, thank you very much!) Context is everything. My boss, who runs Porter Novelli’s EMEA network and sits on our Executive Committee is on Twitter. She is more influential than I, and will continue to be, no matter how many Twitter followers I accrue.
Twitter is just one channel through which exercise your influence. Don’t give up on your blogs, your Facebook pages, your Amazon reviews, or your Last.fm playlists or your IM friend lists, for God’s sake. But remember, it’s who you are, and your relationships that matter; your “context”, and not your “counts.”
- The really interesting question isn’t “who are the Twitterati” or twitter influencers. I’m interested in the Twitter thing mainly because I want to see how well it reflects real life. After today, I’d probably say that it doesn’t very well, wouldn’t you?
Be warned — I may just follow this research up with some research on “how many phone numbers PR people have on their mobile phones.”




don’t let the bastards get you down mat. i’ve been reading the fallout with amused interest. as you say, ever-so-slightly-fudged research never seems to bother the industry when it’s on the delivery end. but by the same token, had i been doing the research i would have at least reached out to each agency i was planning to include and offered them the opportunity to update their numbers before i did my crunching. self interest pervades, of course, as my (truly excellent, wonderful and successful) agency was considerably under-represented on the wiki (4 versus 60 odd from the uk that we can identify). our bad? i don’t think so. unfortunately we’re too busy to spend time updating other people’s wikis. but hey ho. it’s all good clean fun – just not very definitive (which as you acknowledge was down to issues of time). good initiative though and cracking debate. as an aside, i love mucking about with pipes. coding without code – there’s only one word for that: magic darts
keep on keeping on. james
I really love watching the PR folks on twitter, because so many seem to be chasing each other.
Having a little experience with twitter myself I can tell you that I’d rather have a list of 800 people I can touch than 3,000 that I’m trying to corral.
I have 352 phone numbers on my mobile phone. I’ve got to be the winner. So ner ner neh ner ner!
I take a slightly different view. I have no qualms with your and Tim’s research whatsoever. How can I after this: (lol)
http://mediaczar.com/blog/2008/12/some-twitter-social-network-analysis/
However it would have been nice to be included in the article given I have more followers than Rax and have updated more times than Drew. Fair’s fair.
Anyway, I digress…
Remember most of the PR people on Twitter are agency people, which of course means that they’re competing with one another so there’s going to be some conflict if some people don’t feel that they or their agency is fairly represented in PR Week.
Also remember that PR Week is a powerful piece of media in UK PR circles. It’s pretty much they *only* media for PR people in the UK. I think part of the reason for the storm in the tweecup was because people actually care about the industry’s de facto publication.
Will Drew, Dom, Ben and the rest of the groovy cats at Hotwire use this claim to fame in new biz pitches? Maybe. Would I if 3W PR suddenly grew to having the most staff on Twitter users? Hell yeah, if it was relevant. To a new biz client it’s a roundabout way of saying, “We get it, we *all* get it.”
I’m not saying that they would use it btw. I’m just saying they could use it and I know some potential clients would be impressed.
So, yes, while the economy has gone t*ts up and there are bigger things to worry about I still think agencies of all sizes have a right to voice their opinion.
And fair play to Peter and PR Week for asking for feedback to produce a 2.0 version of the article. Two or three years ago BT (Before Twitter) PR Week used to get criticised by a number of UK based PR bloggers for not taking online seriously. In my opinion it seems that Peter is leading the charge to dispel the notion.
Good on ‘im. And good on you and Hoang for doing the work you did, too. Although don’t tell Hoang I said that.
Hi
Really interesting blog post and good to see your intentions were underpinned by some solid thinking, even if the desired end result wasn’t possible.
While I think that the PR industry will always, and probably must,try to understand better the interlocking spheres of influence of tools like Twitter,the personal benefits I get from it are derived from the people I follow, not so much my followers.
All good stuff though and you’re right – its just Twitter guys, calm down.
James
Great post Mat and a very interesting explanation of both methodology and intentions. It’s certainly divided people and sparked discussion – an no doubt driven a few more Twitter subscriptions.
I’m all for debate and think I did my bit to keep the discussion going – I see a few of my comments even made it into your post. Hopefully no offence was taken.
I do believe it would be cause for concern if PR Week published a league table, ranking agencies on any criteria, and the methodology, intent, source and findings went unquestioned. Though as others have pointed out there is an inherent rich irony in PR people, such as myself, crying foul over research they feel doesn’t stand up to close scrutiny.
Baggsie that I don’t get to help out on the mobile phone research, nor the third part how brain cells have you killed in the pursuit of better journalist relations league table either.
I think the most valuable lesson to be learned here is that league tables are really very divisive if the means of ranking is not explicit.
However, now that we’ve gathered some constructive and not so constructive feedback, shared the raw data, the intended and actual methodologies, it would be rather interesting to see what the wider PR community can do with it.
Mat, thanks for trying to get this thing back on track. Actually, to extend that metaphor, the difference between today’s PR Week article and your original intentions represent entirely different modes of transport than simply different tracks!
One of my colleagues thrust the article in front of me this morning with a less than flattering gesture, and I’d blogged about it 15 minutes later:
http://www.marcomprofessional.com/posts/philip.sheldrake/dear-pr-week-its-not-about-twitter-per-se
But what you’re now saying, the breadth of the source data aside, is that you’re experimenting with visualising influence in a social network, which presses all my buttons. We should linkback some if this is the kind of work you enjoy.
I post quite a bit on data visualisation in PR; check out the following for example…
http://www.marcomprofessional.com/posts/philip.sheldrake/can-you-see-it-making-influence-visible
In the meantime, I’d love to contribute to next week’s article, so I’ll let Peter know too. And I’ll keep looking for a number related to my social media use that will trump Stephen’s!
Cheers, and onwards and upwards.
Mat,
Interesting you say that “how influential you are on twitter is not a real thing” when calculating this is surely the precise aim of your research?
AS Stephen said, The thing that is getting agencies’ backs up is that PR Week will be read by many PR Directors who want to “get into this twitter thing” and may take this list as a de facto standard, not knowing that. Those left out are unhappy because we like waving flags that point out how great we are with new and exciting stuff.
Yes, it’s just Twitter, but when Twitter is receiving so much media attention these days, the sad fact is – being on that list might just make the difference when it comes to getting onto a pitch list. It’s a good starting point, but perhaps premature for the PR Week audience.
If the purpose of the story and the research was to prompt questions about the influence of Twitter on the industry and how industry influencers are using Twitter, this is a home run. I am really impressed by your commitment to raising smart questions about the relative influence of PR influencers. This “study” is an important beginning for all of us. I, for one, can’t figure out what matters more, my followers, or who I follow, since Twitter learning is not linear, and Twitter connections unpredictable.
Cheers from ice cold New York. M.
Hi Mat,
I’ve followed this post-article debate with great interest and the first thing to mention is that it’s obvious you acted in good faith and did an awful lot of work on this.
Of course I would say that as I was cited in the article! To touch upon something Stephen and Lewis have both said, if there’s an article about Twitter being published I damn well want my agency to be in there, and so would any agency director.
The reason being that we tend to treat league tables as gospel.
This one could very well be used as a handy two min cheat guide for anyone wanting to see who is up on this new fangled Twitter thingy they keep hearing about. Case in point, after being included I got a stack of follows from people who’d obviously just recently created their twitter accounts. As a result I do see why agencies who were left out are annoyed.
I actually wonder whether there was any way that this could have been done 100% accurately save sending out a big PR Week top 150 type form, and even then you wouldn’t have got everyone.
What I would agree with is that there’s way too much emphasis on social media rankings anyway. You’ve touched upon this in your post, but in a sense what does it matter if I have 1500 odd followers?
Am I necessarily any more insightful, intelligent or influential than someone with 150? Of course not. And personally I was a lot more pleased when a few people gave me a follow Friday recommendation last week, as it was a sign that at least someone finds what I have to say vaguely useful.
In fact something I suggested to Pete is to do something similar to what blogger Mark Pollard did in Sydney – http://bit.ly/1a4kDy
Instead of doing a top Twitter list, he produced a list of up and coming tweeple, with the caveat that they all had under 150 followers.
Why don’t we do the same, where we suggest people (who aren’t our employees!) on the basis that they are interesting, as opposed to them being popular. A kind of 29 under 29 for Twitter, which means all of us who are the usual suspects don’t get a look in.
I managed to completely miss the kafuffle around the piece, although I did read the original PR Week article online. I think that half of the problem was that – as with most conversions of statistical analysis into short, readable press articles – the methodology, hows, whys and limitations of the study are all glossed over or missed out. I’m guessing that most PR Week readers probably don’t want to see a full academic article on this kind of thing, but I think it’s important that it’s there (which it is). Either way, interesting stuff.
Agree with a number of points already made by others including Stephen and my Shiny Red colleague Lewis. The issue for me was that Red and Shiny Red weren’t even mentioned in the PR Week piece despite our healthy use of Twitter. So surely there is a fundamental flaw if the research is unrepresentative of the industry as a whole (Red is the UK’s number 1 consumer agency according to PR Week’s own rankings) but is presented as a comprehensive agency audit?
(By the way we updated the wiki yesterday with details of all Shiny Red and Red’s Twitter users, for future reference.)
In any event, this particular methodology based around number of users is only part of the story and given the scope for agencies to bump up their own numbers is a busted flush now anyway. I like Dirk’s approach, maybe that’s a more insightful route to go down.
Great post Matt, I’m really interested in that network analysis and I hope you find some way to do at least some of it. I’ve seen some of your previous posts on this sort of thing and it looks like a fascinating tool. As we move from being simple media hounds to actually helping our clients build real influence this sort of tool will be invaluable.
Ben
Good to see how the league table came about and how the methodolgy worked. There’s no definitive way of ranking agencies and Tweeple sadly – TwitterGrader’s crude attempt at least makes a start.
Let’s hope PR Week keep building upon their digital push and widen the scope – it clearly shows an impetus on their part.
As a final point, I’d be interested to hear the effect the article has had on non-Twitter users within the industry – maybe those of us that use are so sniffy about articles that explain it simply because we ‘get it’.
WOW!!!! – don’t you just love it when someone really gets on their soap box….
Mat… I’ve been following this twitter thing, in-fact I’ve been following you… and your twitter adventure… reading your blogs watching the research and seeing how the whole thing unfold… because to me – if you want to learn something new… you find a mentor, and then follow… and support (which you could also say is what twitter could be about)
What’s been interesting from my perspective… is how like minded people learn to communicate and grow in communities, when there may not be anything of profit to be gained from the encounter other than personal growth… – which is a huge part of the influence process, but not may be in the traditional sense – ( but this is what new social media is all about – expanding aspects of our personality which are free from the conventional physical restriction around us… ( am I blond, dark, or redhead – who cares in the virtual world)
What I think is great about what you have done… is you have tried to measure… influence… (as you put it)… but what I think from my perspective you have shown, is the human nature of curiosity and self awareness…
And as far as ‘what went wrong’ – Nothing from where I stand….
Well done… and Thanks…
I looking forward to the next step…
Oh and another comment… this is to the PR whole industry…
It is proven again and again in history, that to actually measure something you need to start with a bench mark… This Matt has attempted to do… and Some of you… who did not have your fingers in the right pies got them burned… and those of you who were in on another platform missed the boat… ITS just a start… If any of you are now complaining because you were miss-represented then I think the pretental influence of twitter is clear… Even if not totally understood..
Interesting research, the numbers aside (since I’m hardly an expert in statistical things) I found the fact that there are major PR Firms w/almost no Twitter presence somewhat puzzling.
If nothing else there is a justification for every single PR person to keep up on Twitter simply to be in the loop. I can think of all kinds of situations where a project might change depending on social media trends. For ex., if a major airline co. was preparing a release on the safety of its fleet on the same day the US Air flight hit a flock of birds.
Twitter is not a significant part of my job, so it functions for me as more of a Trends tool than job/networking tool. I can’t imagine why any PR person wouldn’t want a presence on Twitter, especially since it gives an approachability that may not exist via telephone and email.
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